red dog:  Can we just stop for a moment and compare our present status to that of the Neanderthals. We are still developing and when the time comes that we ,Gods creation have fully develope our brain, then we are in Gods image. That’s why i am a fan of Sitchin.

EMA:  No need to stop doc.

Long before Adam & Eve were created, a third of God’s angels inhabited this earth where they administered this earth for millions of years. The hominid is a creature with manlike features lived with the now extinct huge and small animals. The hominid is hardly the man God created in his image.

But you can continue to compare the present man with those pre-Adamic creatures.

red dog: Yes Epi, that’s why we have Gods DNA and in the process of evolution, the dominant genes, that’s Gods, will prevail and we will be in the likeness of his image and when we finally achive the full development of our brain, then we can join God as a complete creation of his.

EMA:  Doc, isn’t DNA physical?

pinoysmallbrother:  Is white american DNA different from black and asians? sorry ka epi out of topic

EMA: I think you are within topic psb. Doc red dog is relating evolution to creation. Let’s give doc the floor.

red dog:  All DNA are the same in structure but have unique characteristic in it’s strand, say color, size or the make up of one’s race. We are no different
from other living things on earth as far as DNA structure is concerned. This
is already a set pattern in our genetic strand as God made us. Unless we toy with it to manipulate it to our liking. God has given us that privilege as he did not intervene to stop the progress in science.Whither we like it or not, we humans are still changing in our physiological and physical self. Then comes religion and adds the spiritual angle and makes it a chop suey.
Well, it taste good though!!!

EMA:  I just want to be clarified with your stand doc in the light of your posts.

Which do you believe, Creation or Evolution?

atsaka: Pwedeng sumingit? I believe in creation and evolution may have been a process. I don’t see any conflict between the two. I cannot believe in just one of them and close my eyes to the other.

red dog:  Both Epi, we have to create first then let time take it’s course
just like when we breed fighting roosters, we combine two bloodlines then interbreed. As time goes by we get the desired qualities that we want by the process of elimination. That’s what is happening to us humans.Korea is a good example, majority of it’s older people are short
and bow legged, today the new generation are tall, good looking and it’s
women have nice legs.

EMA:  OK, you both must have your own bases.

If the bible be the basis, evolution would be not be possible. There could be no more improvement on the physical make up of Adam & Eve who were directly created by God.

red dog:  Agree with you if we base it on the bible but we are closing
our eyes to reality. By just looking around us the hard facts are right there in our eyes, humans are changing in their appearance and intelligence.

EMA:  Doc, is it possible that the human features change by adapting to its environment in addition to intermarriages? 

red dog:  Yes, yes, yes.That’s a gift from God’s DNA.Adaptibility, a unique human feature.

EMA:  Is the environment an explanation why some have black while others have red, white , or brown skin? If we remove the skin, aren’t people of different races the same?

red dog:  Yes Epi, the area where a certain race lives has an effect on his looks and color. Mans body adopts to the environment, though changes takes time. A simple example is when you live in a cold climate
your blood is thicker and as you move to a hotter climate your blood starts to thin. If we remove the skin, arent people the same? Not exactly Epi, take the Hottentuts or as they are called bubble butts. They have large fat deposits on their butts. The purpose for this is during lean months where food is scarce their body draws fat from their
butt to survive. The Bushman are small people and lean cause they have to move in order to survive. Their females mature at ages 18to19
to make them bear children late. All of this are creations of God, but as time moves on and their kind cannot keep phase with change, they will
become extinct. So only the one that can advance through the change
of time survives and as we intermarry the good genes are keept alive,
looks and intelligence increase and maybe in time skin color too will just
be one, then we are in the image of God. Evolution works wonders.

EMA:  Thank you doc. 

In the beginning there were only two persons, male and female.  These two beings are of the same skin color and facial and body features.  They produced sons and daughters.  They lived up to 800 years at that time including their children so people increased in great numbers.  They spread to the different parts of the earth as they source for food.

Some went to and settled in cold places, others in hot areas, while still others lived in places in between hot and cold conditions.  They produced children of their own who developed physical features necessary to adapt to the environmental and climatic conditions of the places they lived in. 

After some more numbers of years of adaptation, the descendants of the original inhabitants have fully adapted to their environment that they now have black, white, red, yellow or brown skins.  Depending on the place where they live, people now have thick lips, thin lips, have button butts, tall, big, short and small.  But originally, they came from the two people in the beginning.

Doc, can we say then that your observation supports the bible teaching that all men came from Adam and Eve?

red dog:  No Epi, i am more inclined to beleive on the sumerian’s writings due to the fact that they mentioned things that are in space
like the two moon’s of saturn and the 12 planets, now the orbiter confirmed it and at present we have 11 known planets. What proof
do we still need to beleive? The bible has only the book of revelation in
which 668 has been confirmed ot happen, but Nostradamus and Casey
were able to predict the future too.
I beleive that there where a lot of adam’s and eve’s scatered
all over planet earth with one foundation gene that of God or the E.T.

EMA:  OK doc, I’ll not ask whether you will believe my theory or not.

But is it possible?

red dog:  According to the bible, yes but for me, it’s a myth. No solid
proof.

EMA:  Disregard the bible doc if you want. With the adaptations that happened over the years, is it possible that men originated from just one couple?

red dog:  Base on the sumerian writing’s no.

EMA:  So doc, is your understanding of the human changes brought about by years of environmental adaptations just based on the Sumerian writings?

red dog:  I am convince that the sumerian writings are true as proven today by the discovery of things that they wrote earlier by science and
archeology. We humans are a product of genetic engineering and the changes that we encounter today and in the future is by design by our
creator. In the sumerian writings, they talk about another group that
opposed the creation of this type of humans, cause they know in advance that we will evolve and will compete with them in the future. Our genetic make up is responsible for the changes that we have today
and in the future. I base my belief on creation with logic and evidence
and the sumerian chronicles provided it. Unless otherwise another scenario unfolds with concrete evidence disproving the sumerian text. I
just can’t swallow a devine argument when solid logical proof are in there.

EMA:  If I might ask further doc, what is this divine argument?

red dog:  No offence to you Epi. The devine argument that i am referring are arguments that are base on the bible whose only proof are
it’s words. Example is adam and eve,the garden of eden yes cause the sumerians mention it in their text. Working to long in the field of science
specialy in research made me a skeptic that without solid proof we start
to question ,that’s prob. one reason why very few posted on my thread
What if, cause people are scared to open up and share their logical
explanation about their belief if this scenario happened. Once faith is on line against logic.

EMA:  No, I’ll not be offended doc. 

Just what specifically is this divine argument?

I did make a post in your “What if” thread. We could continue with that.

red dog:  Anything that’s in the bible that is use as a basis to state their point pertaining to God and religion. I call it divine because people calls the bible a holy book.

EMA:  OK, let’s set aside the bible and the Sumerian writings and let’s just see if the following is possible:

The human races we now see started with just two persons, male and female. These two beings are of the same skin color and facial and body features. They produced sons and daughters. They lived up to 800 years at that time including their children so people increased in great numbers. They spread to the different parts of the earth as they source for food.

Some went to and settled in cold places, others in hot areas, while still others lived in places in between hot and cold conditions. They produced children of their own who developed physical features necessary to adapt to the environmental and climatic conditions of the places they lived in.

After some more numbers of years of adaptation, the descendants of the original inhabitants have fully adapted to their environment that they now have black, white, red, yellow or brown skins. Depending on the place where they live, people now have thick lips, thin lips, have button butts, tall, big, short and small.
This is how the races we now know came to be.

Is this possible doc?

red dog:  Not possible with one gene pool Epi, lots of abnormal and weak offsprings so there where several adam and eve from different
gene pool. The rest are very possible.

EMA:  So where could have those “several adam and eve from different gene pool” originated?.

red dog:  From the entities who created them, say prob. from several
groups of Neanderthal’s from deffirent region on planet earth (50% E.T.
50% Neanderthals) I’m just speculating on this Epi.

EMA:  OK doc, thank you.

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